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#1 ·
Hello folks

Hoping to get some thoughts. I've got two vehicles, 05 Camry & 97 F350 Crewcab. The sub that I have in the trunk of the Camry is a JBL GTO1014. The sub I have behind the rear seat in truck is a Kicker 07TCVT102. (First off I don't pretend either of these are top of the line subs). In my truck the base seems so well defined I can hear the plucks of the base just fine. In the car it sounds more "muddy" for lack of a better word. When I first put the sub in the car I had it facing forward right behind the rear seat. You couldn't hear it.
After reading I found that better results could be had to place it about 6" from the rear of the trunk facing the rear of the trunk. I tried that and it made a ton of difference. I moved the sub around the trunk facing different directions just playing around and found I could hear it best about 6" inches facing the rear so I've left it there.
I cut a panel to fit against the rear seat that fits the contour of the trunk to cabin area pretty good and I have my amps mounted to it. It's not completely air tight but it is a pretty good fit. I put the sub from my truck in the trunk of the car and it had a little more detail but not quite like it is in the truck. The trunk area is deadened pretty well as is the cabin in the truck.
I do think I made the box for the JBL a tad to small I forgot to account for the size of the speaker itself. After realizing this I filled it with poly fill. I didnt' really notice a difference. The Kicker came with it's own box that fit behind the seat in the truck fine so I've kept it like that.
I've done a lot of reading about IB set ups I don't know if that would offer more detail or not. I'm not sure if this is just part of the way it goes with subs in a trunk. There is no problem hearing it it just doesn't seem detailed. I actually thought the JBL would be more detailed. I know they're two completely different subs. I'm just not sure what I should be expecting with a sub in the trunk. I've heard other vehicles with subs in the trunk but the music they're playing it's mostly just pounding I'm not sure there could be any detail.
I like the tightness I have but I'm just curious if it realistic to expect the same detail as the sub in the cabin of the truck.
Anyhow any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Alan
 
#2 ·
I have a JBL GTO 1014D in the trunk of a 2000 SL Saturn, running on a Phoenix Gold 600W amp. It is in a 1.5 cu. ft. ported box tuned to 34Hz. It has great detail, decent impact considering it's a single 10, and can make my air freshener on the mirror dance to the beat if I want it to.

Can you give us some more details, like the internal volume of your enclosure, ported, sealed, crossover points, etc.?
 
#3 ·
It could also be that you are used to the bass in the truck because it is more "in" the cabin if you will. With the camry, you have seats, a wall of wood and other factors that contribute to it not sounding as nice as if you were in the same area as the sub.

But it could also be that the box is too small. That will choke a sub.
 
#4 ·
Benny wrote
(Can you give us some more details, like the internal volume of your enclosure, ported, sealed, crossover points, etc.?)

I’ve got it crossed at 80 Hz, the slope is 12db in a sealed box. The specs called for .75 cubic ft so that’s exactly where I made the box. Problem may be though I didn’t account for the sub itself. Both the truck and the Camry have a PRS880 head unit. The Camry’s sub amp is a Eclipse XA1000 the trucks sub amp is a Kenwood eXcelon if I remember correctly it’s the KAC-X10D


Austin wrote
(It could also be that you are used to the bass in the truck because it is more "in" the cabin if you will. With the camry, you have seats, a wall of wood and other factors that contribute to it not sounding as nice as if you were in the same area as the sub.
But it could also be that the box is too small. That will choke a sub.)

I was wondering if the panel I put in might affect the detail of the sub sound. I don’t have any problem getting the mirror to vibrate or anything like that. But that’s not the clean details I’m not hearing that I hear in the truck. Is this just the nature of trunk subs, or is there something I can do with this? In the truck there isn’t a panel just the rear seat back to go through.
Alan
 
#6 ·
It could be as benny put it that you are used to what it sounds like in your truck, because it is directly behind you with no seat or rear deck to go through. The bass frequencies from the sub in your car have a lot more sound absorbing material to go through, therefore, less "detail" compared to your sub in your truck.
That's my best guess, a little bit of listener biased introduced from your two different systems.
 
#8 ·
I don't think it would cause enough difference for you to think it sounds less detailed. Do you have any EQ in your system right now? I think having the sub in the trunk might introduce more peaks and valleys in your bass response than having the subs in your cab. Maybe get an EQ to smooth out your bass response and you may be able to retrieve some of the detail that you're missing. From what I gather, a single band parametric may be enough to make you happy, but the more the merrier.
 
#9 ·
The only eq in the system is in the head unit. 880PRS I have played with it a bit. It's graphic not parametric. I kind of wonder if it's not a combination of things. First being it may be the nature of the game with the sub in the trunk. And secondly the fact that it did sound a "little" more detailed when I put the sub from my truck in the trunk of the car. Maybe it's just the two different subs. I think I'll fold the rear seats down and put the sub right there and see what it sounds like then.
Alan